Testimony of Mark Grebner, Co-Owner of Wisconsin Voter Lists
Before the Assembly Committee on Campaigns & Elections
October 17, 2003
Assembly Bill 600 and Assembly Bill 601
HAVA & Voter Registration Database
My firm, which does business in the Badger State as Wisconsin Voter Lists, has built a complete and accurate voter database for Wisconsin. We sell voter lists to both political parties, all major candidates and congressional representatives for official constituent mailings. Our file includes names, addresses, dates-of-birth, phone numbers, political jurisdictions, and voter history from 1996 to the present for over 4 million eligible voters. It has a very good reputation for accuracy and completeness, and was created without the use of any public resources.
To first obtain and convert computerized files from approximately 300 municipalities, and to hand key data from the remaining 1600 units of government, cost approximately $500,000. In addition, we spend about $100,000 each year to maintain the file and add new voter history information. In total, since 2000, we have spent about $800,000.
I believe the state of Wisconsin is making a fundamental mistake by focusing on HAVA's requirement to build only a state list of "registered voters." To us, it appears the legislation (i.e. LRB 0610 and LRB 3410) was written to satisfy the bare-bones requirements of HAVA while not accomplishing anything particularly useful for Wisconsin. The federal law takes a typical one-size-fits-all approach. The problem is that it doesn't fit Wisconsin very well at all. While this legislation would certainly earn the federal money, it would make little or no improvement in the administration of elections in Wisconsin.
It would be far more useful, in my opinion, to focus on Wisconsin's unique system of election law, particularly the provision authorizing same-day registration at the polls. Unlike virtually every other state in the country, the list of registered voters created for each election in Wisconsin does not restrict who may actually vote. In -- say Colorado or Arkansas -- if your name is not on the list of registered voters you're basically out of luck. So getting your name on the list is crucial for every voter, and removing names in the list is an effective method of blocking an ineligible person's vote.
In Wisconsin, however, if you appear at the polls and you're not on the list of registered voters the local officials simply add you to the list and let you vote. Over 70 percent of all voter registrations in Wisconsin are taken at the polls on Election Day. As long as same-day registration is available, neither the voters nor the election officials have any reason to take pre-election voter registration seriously. This will of course compromise the quality of the data in the state list, and, again, not help in the administration of elections in Wisconsin.
Then, of course, there is also 30 percent of Wisconsin that currently does not have any voter registration system at all. The bill before you proposes that these smaller communities suddenly be required to institute registration, but that is not a given. Further, in these areas, which generally have only one polling place and virtually no full-time office staff, the lack of interest in voter registration (and the lack of quality data) will be at least as great.
The proposed legislation you are considering simply creates additional procedures, primarily on Election Day, at considerable expense. The fact that the bulk of the money is from the federal doesn't mitigate the wastefulness. In addition, I imagine creative fiscal analysts could find a way to capture all the federal money, thereby guaranteeing funding for ongoing maintenance and upkeep of the database, even if the initial costs were kept low.
I propose that the state consider a different and broader approach. I think Wisconsin should use the federal money to create a list of "potential" voters. This list would include everyone who registered to vote at a minimum, but would also include everyone in non-registration municipalities who has voted recently. It would also include persons with drivers licenses or state-issued personal ID's and perhaps names from other sources as well.
The data could provide information, where known, establishing each potential voter's eligibility to vote under Wisconsin law (i.e. residency, age, citizenship, lack of felony record). This file, which would be only slightly larger than the proposed voter registration file (about 4.1 million total records), would ideally include every adult in the state. On Election Day, as voters appear at the polls, virtually every name would be found by election workers on the list, greatly reducing the burden of recording and checking new registrations - and facilitating expeditious voting.
Instead of wasting time on people whose eligibility is unquestioned, poll workers would focus on the handful of people whose names do not appear on the list, or for whom there appears to be some impediment to voting eligibility. For each such problematic voter, there would be a well-documented procedure for inquiring about the qualification and potentially curing it.
For example, imagine a person who appears at the polls and is noted (based on drivers license information) to be a non-citizen and therefore ineligible to vote. The election worker, whose attention has been drawn to a specific problem, asks a series of questions. Perhaps the individual is newly naturalized. The election worker, upon receiving the necessary proofs, clears the impediment and permits the new citizen to cast a ballot.
A comparable procedure would be devised to deal with each impediment to voting: lack of residency, conviction of felony, or whatever. The statewide list I propose -- of all "potential voters" rather than just "registered voters" -- would play an active and useful part in the conduct of elections in Wisconsin. The money invested would pay off in tighter control of potential fraud, as well as making possible quick and easy voting for most voters. And the requirements of HAVA will be satisfied.
In contrast, I think the legislation as currently proposed will result in a slightly more difficult Election Day process without offering any real improvement in security or the facilitation of elections. Because the overwhelming majority of registrations will continue to be taken at the polls, particularly on the day of presidential elections, I expect that the quality of the data will be very poor and voting at busy times will be slow and tedious. Poll workers, already facing lines of waiting voters, are simply not going to devote much attention or effort to what they see as a redundant procedure.
The first phase of this project (a consultant's study) has already consumed $200,000. The current planning phase (again by an outside consultant) is expected to cost $500,000 to $850,000 more. I imagine the costs of actually converting existing municipal files and keying from paper records will be much, much more ($26 million is mentioned in the current state HAVA plan). It's not that the proposed approach is infeasible -- I'm certain that all the money can be spent and all the data can be inputted. But what exactly what you have accomplished? It doesn't seem to make sense to spend millions to create a relatively useless list.
Wisconsin Voter Lists would be happy to play a role in this process. This is what we do, we're good at it and we like to do it. Thank you for your time.